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[livejournal.com profile] huskyteer had my favourite subject line of the people who've done this meme - "there are things known and things unknown, and in between is the window".

And [livejournal.com profile] offensive_mango's results diagram is great. But I'm away from my own computer so you'll have to imagine the window-shape for yourselves...


Quadrant 1: What I thought about myself which others agreed with

Counting my own votes in this:
spontaneous 10 (hey guys, I'm in Foreign again!)
reflective 8
adaptable 6
idealistic 6
brave 3 (though I'm kind of regretting this one today. I have little sense of physical danger or practical risk, but in other ways, mostly involving raising difficult stuff with people, I am a gibbering coward)

Quadrant 2: What I thought about myself that no one else thought

None of my six went unpicked, but one of them was only picked by one other person, and that was knowledgeable. That was kind of gratifying considering why I'd picked it. I thought, well, I can't claim to be 'intelligent' or 'clever' compared to you brilliant lot, but at least I know a lot of useless trivia...

Which is why I was surprised by the top result in Quadrant 3.

Quadrant 3: what others thought about me that I didn't choose for myself
Words with stars are ones I almost picked for myself but decided against.

intelligent 12 (gosh. Like I said, I thought I came across as a bit of a ditz.)
friendly 7 (thanks!)
* observant 6
* independent 6
* searching 5
wise
warm
modest
caring
complex - all 4
able
powerful - both 3 (powerful?!)
witty
clever
bold
dependable (Boggle. I was once three hours late for a dinner party at the house of one of the people who picked that.)
giving
dignified
quiet - all 2
energetic
extroverted
*self-conscious
happy
loving
trustworthy
proud
patient
accepting
religious
calm
mature
responsive - all 1

I actually set quite a lot of store by the 1s, more than I expected to, because a lot of them come from people who know me very well indeed. And I'm amused that only one person (again someone who knows me a good while) went for 'self-conscious'. The nerd in me is still there, but buried under a pile of busy, people-filled years.

Quadrant 4: things I don't know and no one else knows about myself

Because an empty quadrant would be dull, I'm going to use this to list the words no one picked for me:

sensible
logical
organised (well, you got those right)
introverted (you should have seen me at school)
sentimental
kind
shy
silly
relaxed
(but not tense either)
sympathetic (OH SOD OFF WITH YOUR SILLY PROBLEMS. Not really! Joking!... Where are you going?)
cheerful (no.1 adjective people used about me at university, which annoyed me - I wanted to be enigmatic)
helpful
nervous
self-assertive
confident



[livejournal.com profile] juggzy made me splutter with laughter by including 'big tits' among all the other words. And like people said, the word list does suck quite a bit. Why all the similar words? Brave *and* bold, why? So. What words would you like to have seen in something like this? 'Forgetful'? 'Hedonistic'? 'Perverted'? 'Mutant freak'? 'Barking mad'?

edit: This is so amazing and trippy and beautiful and I WANT ONE. From [livejournal.com profile] gillen

Date: 2006-02-10 11:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_kent/
That multi-touch thing... It's amazing when you consider it, but everything we've learned to do with a mouse and pointer is something that we're effectively doing with one finger, and the whole interface is designed around that limitation. That demo just blows me away with the sheer adaptability possible in an interface that uses even two fingers.

I wonder if there's any mileage in a twin mouse-and-pointer setup?

Date: 2006-02-10 11:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skorpionuk.livejournal.com
Such a beautiful demo! SHINY!

Good point about multi-pointer, now I think about it. I especially liked the photograph demo, being able to move things around (known), but also blow them up and shrink them with two pointers, rather than faffing about with menues. It's rather more alike to how we handle real objects, isn't it?

Date: 2006-02-10 12:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ravenblack.livejournal.com
I was quite pleased even with a touch-screen on some handheld device that you're supposed to use a pointy-stick for, but which was quite happy to react to my fingernails. Playing Solitaire on it, it was great to be able to move a card with one thumb then use the other thumb (already waiting above the next card to move) to make the subsequent move. Even though the screen could only cope with one touch at a time, being able to 'swap hands' to effectively a different pointer in a different place makes it much more of a pleasure to use.

Actually being able to use 'two hands' would presumably be much better.

Date: 2006-02-10 11:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] huskyteer.livejournal.com
Glad you liked the subject line! I was super chuffed with myself over it.

'Eccentric' would be an interesting addition, as many people who think they are aren't and vice versa.

Date: 2006-02-10 02:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bluedevi.livejournal.com
That's a very good point. A lot of self-described eccentrics are just 'I'm mad, me' people.

According to goth folklore the word 'goth' would work the same way - if you say you're one, you probably aren't :)

Date: 2006-02-10 03:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] huskyteer.livejournal.com
I think true eccentrics are blissfully unaware, or else think it's the rest of the world that's a bit funny.

My boss told me you had to be rich to be eccentric, and I was therefore just plain weird.

Date: 2006-02-10 11:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mooism.livejournal.com
It looks like an eye-toy for fingers.

Date: 2006-02-10 12:16 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shermarama
I may be being a terrible skeptic here. Given that you can have screens that respond to one touch it doesn't seem unreasonable that you could have two, certainly. But but but. This could be a pre-made video playing, with someone learning the actions to mime afterwards. And I can't tell if the slight discrepancies in movements here and there are mistakes in the sequence learning or inevitable slight drag in such an interface. Umm.

Date: 2006-02-10 12:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ravenblack.livejournal.com
You can definitely do multi-touch-sensitive screens - the trickier part is determining how many touches there are, and accurately where. If two blobs are close together, is it really just one blob? If there's a really tiny light touch, is it actually intended as input?

Date: 2006-02-10 12:43 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shermarama
So it's more a question of protocols, matching up how the screen works with people's expectations of how it works so that they think it works well.. That sounds a lot more possible. But I'm just skeptical as to why the first evidence of something like this working well is in a home video on Youtube, like.

Date: 2006-02-10 12:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ravenblack.livejournal.com
Maybe it's like face-recognition - that's been 'working', kind of, for ages, but still mostly isn't very good and not very impressive. And that's a field where anyone with a scanner or camera can play. In a field where you need a special uncommon (to the point of needing custom manufacture) bit of hardware before you can even start work on the protocols, I imagine progress would be slower.

Date: 2006-02-10 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bluedevi.livejournal.com
Possibly - but even if it is a fake, it still excites me because I'd never considered the possibilities of an interface like that before. Only in a vague, background, never really examined way while using something like Photoshop - "wouldn't it be great if I could just grab that thing and pinch it smaller?" - but I never took the thought far enough into the territory of "what sort of interface would you need to do that?"

But now someone has thought about it, even if they haven't actually built it. That's enough :)

Date: 2006-02-11 09:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-elyan.livejournal.com
It is pretty wonderful - I wonder if the same people worked on the effects for Minority Report?

The only question which occurs to me is why, with the whole map of the world at their fingertips, they chose to home in on Boston, Lincs... Poor sods.

Date: 2006-02-12 11:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mooism.livejournal.com
The 1s.

I’m wondering how much they say about
  • the sides of you that these people see
  • the relationships you have with these people; and
  • the people that see these qualities so strong in you.
(Since you have a large sample size.)

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