small petty rant
Feb. 21st, 2006 12:58 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
deviGoing off on a tangent from stuff discussed in the 101 Tasks comments:
I've never quite got the point of people telling me things - clubs, scenes, subcultures, conventions, festivals - aren't as good as they used to be. This seems to have been a running theme in my life. I always seem to catch on to things late. Then someone pops up and says "It was so much better when people could bring their own drink." Or "All they care about these days is packing in the punters." "It was so much better when people got off with each other at parties." "Goth is dead." "SF is dead." "It's got so *shudder* commercial." "Here's a whole bloody filksong about how much better it used to be when we were young and set the world on fire."
I realise you wish to help and enlighten, but honestly, what difference is it supposed to make to me? Am I supposed to nod and say "well, okay, I won't go then. Thanks for saving me the trouble"? But experience has taught me otherwise. I always do the thing anyway and, guess what, since I wasn't around for the wonderful days of amazingness and don't know what I'm missing, I usually end up having a great time.
But don't mind me, I'm in a vile mood. Everything sucks*. I may have to break out the Diana Wynne Jones.
* edit - things that don't suck: my house, my friends, Battlestar Galactica
I've never quite got the point of people telling me things - clubs, scenes, subcultures, conventions, festivals - aren't as good as they used to be. This seems to have been a running theme in my life. I always seem to catch on to things late. Then someone pops up and says "It was so much better when people could bring their own drink." Or "All they care about these days is packing in the punters." "It was so much better when people got off with each other at parties." "Goth is dead." "SF is dead." "It's got so *shudder* commercial." "Here's a whole bloody filksong about how much better it used to be when we were young and set the world on fire."
I realise you wish to help and enlighten, but honestly, what difference is it supposed to make to me? Am I supposed to nod and say "well, okay, I won't go then. Thanks for saving me the trouble"? But experience has taught me otherwise. I always do the thing anyway and, guess what, since I wasn't around for the wonderful days of amazingness and don't know what I'm missing, I usually end up having a great time.
But don't mind me, I'm in a vile mood. Everything sucks*. I may have to break out the Diana Wynne Jones.
* edit - things that don't suck: my house, my friends, Battlestar Galactica
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Date: 2006-02-21 01:34 am (UTC)Naturally. And in a few years, when it all goes even further to shit, you'll be able to complain that it used to be so much better. ;)
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Date: 2006-02-21 01:39 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-02-21 01:50 am (UTC)"BBSers are ahead of their time. We're already on WWIV!"
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Date: 2006-02-21 01:36 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-02-21 01:41 am (UTC)It's more a determination thing because Ivan and I didn't manage to sort out tickets the first time. Unfinished business.
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Date: 2006-02-21 02:10 am (UTC)And DO I CARE? I am there for having FUN and for having hippie-batteries recharged, and it does both those things exceedingly well, so GO AWAY!
Um, yes. And I am in a smashing mood, actually, because I have this whole week off from work for yarn, and because I have just bought quite a lot of children's books from Amazon for a penny (plus postage - bah!) to fill out gaps in series-es I have and love.
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Date: 2006-02-21 11:38 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-02-21 05:35 pm (UTC)Also, I kind of think enjoying Glastonbury is more down to you and the people you've gone with.
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Date: 2006-02-21 02:30 am (UTC)When someone says "In my day it was all so much better, more genuine, fresher, less commercial, more spontaneous, and generally gooder" what they mean is "In my youth, my liver was more effective at eliminating toxins, my senses were sharper, I was less suspicious and distrustful, more imaginative, wasn't jaded yet, my joints didn't creak, I needed less sleep, and could generally enjoy life more. Alas." Pity them. And enjoy life as much as you can before these things happen to you.
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Date: 2006-02-21 11:36 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-02-21 06:52 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-02-21 07:51 am (UTC)Things change - those who fear change dont like it - (this is the whole Eastercon argument in a nutshell in fact- oh and we are going btw).
New things are great - new people are great and you are one of the best new peopel I've met in a long while so there :)
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Date: 2006-02-21 07:53 am (UTC)Two things I constantly heard the "it used to be much more real" whinge about:
Camden Town
The Manic Street Preachers
Hope you feel a little better today...
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Date: 2006-02-21 11:34 am (UTC)Though they may have a point about the Manics. Just recently I had occasion to hear This Is My Truth Tell Me Yours all the way through for the first time in ages and I found it very tedious.
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Date: 2006-02-21 09:29 pm (UTC)I know what you mean about This Is My Truth..., though I think there are a couple of cracking songs on it. I would rather listen to Everything Must Go than the Holy Bible though, I'm afraid...
Mind you, we all have a desire to prove we have a secret pleasure that others don't know about - hence my endless proselytising about both Laura Nyro and Jeffrey Bernard (not a combination you hear in the same sentence too often). But then, since they're both dead, the "not as good as they used to be" doesn't really work...
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Date: 2006-02-21 09:22 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-02-21 11:42 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-02-21 12:41 pm (UTC)Or indeed (c) even mentioned goth?
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Date: 2006-02-21 11:43 am (UTC)*sucks thumb*
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Date: 2006-02-21 11:51 am (UTC)"SF is dead."
Date: 2006-02-21 11:23 am (UTC)Re: "SF is dead."
Date: 2006-02-21 11:30 am (UTC)The most recent worry I was aware of seemed to be that "slipstream" writers were trying to merge SF with the mainstream. But I'm sure
Re: "SF is dead."
Date: 2006-02-21 11:34 am (UTC)I suppose this is one of the reasons why I tend to avoid 'fandoms'...
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Date: 2006-02-21 11:53 am (UTC)Re: "SF is dead."
Date: 2006-02-21 12:06 pm (UTC)Re: "SF is dead."
Date: 2006-02-21 12:10 pm (UTC)Re: "SF is dead."
Date: 2006-02-21 12:52 pm (UTC)Re: "SF is dead."
Date: 2006-02-21 12:39 pm (UTC)Re: "SF is dead."
Date: 2006-02-21 12:43 pm (UTC)It's ultimately as pointless and unprofitable a complaint as those who try to define zombie films to exclude 28 Days Later.
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Date: 2006-02-21 11:46 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-02-21 12:05 pm (UTC)I saw Whitby going worse band lineup wise so stopped going. Now I'm going to something by accounts of friends far better (Leipzig).
last Whitby's bands
Date: 2006-02-21 12:11 pm (UTC)NFD, Rico, DeathBoy, Neon Zoo
Where as the bands so far announced for Leipzig:
http://www.wave-gotik-treffen.de/english/bands.php
(113 bands and counting)
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Date: 2006-02-21 12:46 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-02-21 12:49 pm (UTC)PS: Send me those CDs already! ;>